The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160840 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi created the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
I'm having a problem with my survey.
Whenever I click on the "Next" the survey updates the page of this group of questions instead of following the next one. The whole survey has lots of questions and 248 of them are invisible, appearing only one of them depending on the conditions that I defined.

Can someone tell me why why I refresh the page instead of moving on to the next group?

Thank you
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2 weeks 6 days ago #160847 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hello,
well, your informations are not very substantial.

I suppose you talk about your "Toolkit" survey.
I checked what you sent a few days ago, and ther were four errors in the logic file.

Therefore: Did you check the logic? What was the result?

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Joffm

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160852 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hello.
I was correcting that aspect about the countries in which I had spoken the other day in a new survey.
I'll send him to see if I can.
when you want to move to Part 2B it makes me refresh to the page of part 2A.

How do I check for these logic errors?

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2 weeks 6 days ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #160853 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group

How do I check for these logic errors?


"Survey properties / Survey logic file"

Well, this file you send doesn't show any errors.

Joffm
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2 weeks 6 days ago #160854 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
In this new version I sent you there is no error detected.

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160855 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
I do not understand why not let me advance in the survey. I already went to the php.ini file to increase the value of "max_input_vars" because it gave me error when the value was at 1000. Now it does not give me the error but it continues to make me the refresh to the page and it does not allow me to advance.

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160858 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hello, Moises,

I tested Austria and Denmark and couldn't reproduce.

Well, I imported the survey after you exported it. Maybe you should do the same. Import a new survey from your export.


Some proposed improvements:
1.Set relevance equations that Q1X1X9eO and Q1X1X10eO are only shown if in the previous question "Other" is "Yes".

2. Set the subquestion width in your arrays to at least 50%.

3. Did you notice that it takes a long time to enter Group "Part 2A"? That's because ALL of your regions have to be taken into account though only one is displayed
Better to have one group for each region selected by group relevance.

Sorry, not much help.
Joffm

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160860 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hi Joff.

I'm understanding the improvements you're telling me.
Can you explain to me where I change the width of the subsections of my arrays?

I've noticed this delay in the regions and I really need to sort it out. What suits me then is to create a group for each region. But when defining conditions is it possible to define in the same case to be in independent groups?

You're helping me a lot already.
Thank you for everything.
Best regards.
Moisés

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2 weeks 6 days ago #160862 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
I've already found where the width changes. :)
Now I'm still a bit confused with the last point you mentioned about a group for each region.

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2 weeks 6 days ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #160863 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Why confused?
You have one huge group "Part2A" with all the question for our regions. LS has to calculate all which are displayed or not, because you display groupwise.

I propose instead "Part2A" of to have groups like: (that there is less to calculate, only country and inside ONE country the regions)

grAlbania: (group relevance: "Q1XCountry=="AL")

grAustria: (group relevance: "Q1XCountry=="AT")
  • Austria: (relevance: QDRxAustria="AT")
  • Burgenland: (relevance: QDRxAustria="AT11")
  • Niederösterreich: ...
grBelgium: (group relevance: "Q1XCountry=="BE")
  • Brussels:
  • Flandres
...


And then "Part2B"

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Joffm
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2 weeks 6 days ago #160864 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
But when creating a group for each region / country and setting the conditions the limesurvey when loading the page does not run through them all at the same time?

Sorry to ask so many questions but as it is a large scale project and quite delicate and due to my little experience.
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Moisés

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2 weeks 6 days ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #160868 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hello, Moises,
therefore you should always create a sample before, where you check the relevances and all the logic.
Then you fill it with the rest.

Here is a sample how I'd design it.

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File Name: limesurvey...1734.lss
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Best regards
Joffm

By the way:
1.I hope you know about the column limits of MySQL.

2. And IMHO the amount of posted variables is much less if you split into several groups.
E.g. My provider has a max_input_vars value of 4000.
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2 weeks 4 days ago #160922 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Good morning, Joff.

Thank you for your example.
However what makes me confused are the equations of relevance because I have few notions of programming.

Can you explain this equation better?
(! is_empty (country) AND (country == "AT"))

Once again thank you very much for your help.
Best regards.

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2 weeks 4 days ago #160928 by moisespaivaspi
moisespaivaspi replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
I already noticed the Joff equation. :)

I am now testing one by one for the countries and regions of my survey. It will take time to do all but this way that told me by groups should give for what I intend.

When I get results I tell you. :)

Thank you very much for all the help.
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2 weeks 4 days ago #160938 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: The survey updates the page instead of moving on to the next group
Hello, Moises,

here my idea about the nation groups.

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Furthermore I changed:
1. Display only group description
2. 1.9 & 1.10 The comment is only dispalyed if "Others" = "Yes"
3. Example of Q1X10 (changed to array)

Now there is one problem about the Q2A selectspec.
On the other side - as a free text - it was very, very difficult to analyse (people can enter everything they want to)
So maybe you should think about something else.

Best regards
Joffm


By the way:
In my opinion alphanumeric codes are always difficult to analyse (let's say in SPSS or other statistic tools).
Therefore I prefer numeric codes.
Example: You have the scale:
A1 very poor
A2 poor
A3 neutral
A4 good
A5 very good
A6 Don’t know / Prefer not to answer
Okay, it's just ordinal scale, but if you want to do some statistical tests, like "t-test" you need numerical codes. Now you have only nominals.
Or: What is the mean of A2 and A5? Well, the answer "A3.5" is wrong.
Just something to consider.
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