Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'

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1 year 5 months ago #156138 by Rzwiers
Rzwiers created the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hi all,

In Limesurvey I have a couple of multiple choice questions with comments. I would like to make it mandatory to enter a comment before you can thick the box to select a specific answer in the list (just like is possible for 'other'). I hope this is possible.

Thanks so much for you help!

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1 year 4 months ago #156154 by tpartner
tpartner replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
You can make comments and corresponding checkboxes mandatory via the Question validation equation.

So, assuming question codes like SQ001, SQ002, SQ003 and SQ004, an equation like this (line-breaks added for clarity):

{(is_empty(Q1_SQ001) AND is_empty(Q1_SQ001comment)) OR (!is_empty(Q1_SQ001) AND !is_empty(Q1_SQ001comment))
AND
(is_empty(Q1_SQ002) AND is_empty(Q1_SQ002comment)) OR (!is_empty(Q1_SQ002) AND !is_empty(Q1_SQ002comment))
AND
(is_empty(Q1_SQ003) AND is_empty(Q1_SQ003comment)) OR (!is_empty(Q1_SQ003) AND !is_empty(Q1_SQ003comment))
AND
(is_empty(Q1_SQ004) AND is_empty(Q1_SQ004comment)) OR (!is_empty(Q1_SQ004) AND !is_empty(Q1_SQ004comment))}

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1 year 4 months ago #156159 by Rzwiers
Rzwiers replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Thanks a lot for your answer. For some reason I can't get this to work. I entered the code as Question validation equation and changed Q1 to the name of the question. When I save and preview the question, it is still possible to click the checkbox without commenting

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1 year 4 months ago #156188 by tpartner
tpartner replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
If your adaptations are correct, you may be able to click the checkbox without commenting but you will not be allowed to submit the page. You can add a question validation tip to indicate that.

Sample survey attached:

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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #160210 by IlanaWilken
IlanaWilken replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Good day

I had the same issue in figuring this out, so I'm grateful for this post. However, after entering the question validation equation, it doesn't quite work as it should. I have six options, and only the first option's comment is seen as "mandatory". What could the reason for this be? Here is my equation:
(is_empty(RI7_SQ001) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ001comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ001) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ001comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ002) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ002comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ002) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ002comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ003) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ003comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ003) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ003comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ004) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ004comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ004) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ004comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ005) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ005comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ005) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ005comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ006) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ006comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ006) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ006comment))

Thank you!
Last Edit: 1 year 2 weeks ago by IlanaWilken.

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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #160212 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hello, Ilana,

I can not reproduce that.
Are there any other conditions in this question?

See sample

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File Name: limesurvey...7433.lss
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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #160220 by IlanaWilken
IlanaWilken replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hello Joffm

There aren't any other conditions in this question that I know of. However, I only started using LimeSurvey yesterday, so I might be wrong.

I compared the code in your attachment to mine, and I see a big difference (see mine below). I just, unfortunately, don't know how to get mine to look like yours by just using Lime Survey's interface (I'm not a programmer).

The question is supposed to be mandatory and I thought that might influence it, but I turned it off and it still gave me the same results.
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    <value><![CDATA[(is_empty(RI7_SQ001) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ001comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ001) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ001comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ002) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ002comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ002) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ002comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ003) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ003comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ003) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ003comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ004) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ004comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ004) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ004comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ005) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ005comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ005) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ005comment))
AND
(is_empty(RI7_SQ006) AND is_empty(RI7_SQ006comment)) OR (!is_empty(RI7_SQ006) AND !is_empty(RI7_SQ006comment))]]></value>
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 </question_attributes>
Last Edit: 1 year 2 weeks ago by IlanaWilken.

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1 year 2 weeks ago #160221 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hi,Ilana,
I sent you an *.lss file.
So just import this survey and compare.
https://manual.limesurvey.org/Surveys_-_introduction#Import_a_survey

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1 year 2 weeks ago #160223 by IlanaWilken
IlanaWilken replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hi

I just imported your survey and compared. Everything is now the same as yours.
I did a preview of your survey and unfortunately, the same thing happens. Only the first multiple choice choice is required to have a comment. The others can just be ticked and it's accepted like that. I will test and play around and hopefully come to a solution. If not, it won't be the end of the world. :)

Thanks again for your help.
Ilana

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1 year 2 weeks ago #160225 by Joffm
Joffm replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Well, then you'd send us YOUR survey (*.lss) or a part of it with this question.

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7 months 3 weeks ago #166522 by annieandongmei
annieandongmei replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
Hi, I am having the same issue. Attached is my survy. Can you help me?

annie
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7 months 3 weeks ago - 7 months 3 weeks ago #166533 by tpartner
tpartner replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
You were missing some brackets.

((is_empty(Q00004_SQ001) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ001comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ001) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ001comment))) 
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ002) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ002comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ002) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ002comment)))
AND
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ003) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ003comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ003) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ003comment)))
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ004) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ004comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ004) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ004comment))) 
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ005) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ005comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ005) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ005comment)))
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ006) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ006comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ006) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ006comment)))
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ007) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ007comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ007) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ007comment)))
AND 
((is_empty(Q00004_SQ008) AND is_empty(Q00004_SQ008comment)) OR (! is_empty(Q00004_SQ008) AND ! is_empty(Q00004_SQ008comment)))

Here is a sample survey:

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File Name: limesurvey...2411.lss
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7 months 3 weeks ago #166534 by annieandongmei
annieandongmei replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
You are awesome. Thank you. It works. The challenge now is my survey is already active. I cannot edit the logic anymore. How can I edit the survey and add the logic? I can do it after midnight so the impact is small. My worry is whether i will lose my previous responses by editing it. And also, the link must remain unchanged after editing the survey.

Urgently need your help.

annie

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7 months 3 weeks ago #166540 by tpartner
tpartner replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'

I cannot edit the logic anymore.

Why not? You can edit question logic on an activated survey. The only way you will loose data is if you deactivate.

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7 months 3 weeks ago #166544 by annieandongmei
annieandongmei replied the topic: Comments mandatory for 'Multiple choice with comments'
It is not editable. The Logic section of the question has been Read only. See screenshot attached.

annie
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