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1 year 1 week ago #242473 by Annakatharinaaaa
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Hey! I've tried to create a survey with limesurvey. The participants have to watch four videos and remember the words that were mentionned. After each video there is a distractor exercise and then there's a list of words and they're supposed to mark those that were mentionned in the video before. After every video the participants answer whether the've watched to video. (Y/N)
The videos must appear in a randomised order but the words must be linked to the right video. Therefore I've created a simple condition. e.g. (( O1.NAOK == "Y"))Unfortunately if a open the survey sometimes after the second or third video there's the distractor exercise but no list of words appears it just skips to the next video.
I'm confused because it seems to work perfectly at one time and the other time it's the same issue again...
I'm thankful for every tip!
 
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1 year 1 week ago #242474 by Joffm
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Hi, 
you explained a lot about your survey design, but nothing about your try to achieve this.

Please, send a lss export.
This way we see what exactly is your mistake.

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1 year 1 week ago - 1 year 1 week ago #242475 by Annakatharinaaaa
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Thank you for the prompt reply! It's my first time using limesurvey so I'm not entirely sure about what I did there.
I've attached the Iss file.
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1 year 1 week ago - 1 year 1 week ago #242478 by Joffm
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Ach, Manno, Anna-Lena
warum hast Du die Frage nicht im deutschen Teil gestellt?
Jetzt muss ich mir wieder unnötigerweise Englisch rausquälen.

Well, it is not doable this way.
The usual approach would have been do put all groups into the same "Randomization group".
Then ALL groups are displayed in random order.

BUT: You want to keep three groups together.
Meaning: Your design consists of "groups of groups". This is not supported by Limesurvey.
Unfortunately LimeSurvey has no real concept to separate logical grouping and visual grouping.


So we have to find something else.
One idea would be "tayloring".
Another one: Hard code some of the 24 possible ways to order the 4 "groups"
Let me think about it.

And I suggest to ask again in the German section.

There we can discuss without language gap.

In the meantime you may read my "Tutorial 3: Gimmicks", Chapter 2
(but you are allowed to read the others as well   ) 
In the German section, probably on page 4.

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1 year 1 week ago #242493 by holch
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Version 3.22.4+200212


You are also "allowed" or highly encouraged to make an update.

The installation you are using was released on 12.02.2020, so it is now over 3 years without updates, bug fixes and security patches. Given that you speak German, I assume you have to comply with GDPR/DSVGO in some sort and a software that hasn't received any updates (despite various updates are available) wouldn't count as 'state of the art' software in case of a data breach.

I answer at the LimeSurvey forum in my spare time, I'm not a LimeSurvey GmbH employee.
No support via private message.

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1 year 1 week ago #242494 by Joffm
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@holch,
you may close this thread.
We continued in the German section and it is solved.

And the version?
As usual: university.

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1 year 1 week ago #242495 by holch
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Just saw it in the German forum. Will close this thread.

I also expected it to be a univeristy. One of those institutions that have ridiculous requirements due to ethics committees for members of the university, but can't even keep a software up to date. I would rather trust my employees and students to do the right think in terms of data protection, than have an unpatched software that might have potential security issues for anyone out there to take advantage off...

Wrong priorities, I guess.

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