LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)

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2 Monate 2 Wochen her #173029 von jelo
jelo erstellte das Thema LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
Left empty for later (e.g. Links, official info)

Are you a student conducting a survey? If yes, tell me why you use LimeSurvey?
www.limesurvey.org/forum/development/116...y-you-use-limesurvey
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2 Monate 2 Wochen her #173030 von jelo
jelo antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
In some posts there are already claims made about what LS4 will have.
There is still need to verfiy these claims. I list them to stimulate discussion ;-)

LS4 will have a new HTML-Editor.
LS4 will offer the Twig-Templateengine for E-Mails.
LS4 will have a normalized datastructure (no more table limit issues)
LS4 will offer real objects (ORM access style) instead of the aSurveyInfo.
LS4 will provide retro-compatibility with LS3 themes.
LS4 will have a RBAC permission system.

What version of Yii and Bootstrap will be used?

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2 Monate 2 Wochen her #173037 von LouisGac
LouisGac antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
ok we just had a meeting about it this morning.
we will soon release a Road Map for it.

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2 Monate 9 Stunden her #173912 von tammo
tammo antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
Really look forward to seeing this roadmap!


Tammo ter Hark at Tools for Research
Proud developers of the TFR Responsive Limesurvey template
toolsforresearch.com/limesurvey-responsive-template

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1 Monat 2 Wochen her - 1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174826 von ollehar
ollehar antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
Hi,

Just a quick update of our current thoughts about LS4.

To answer jelo:

" LS4 will have a new HTML-Editor." No, unless already done. Link to mantis ticket?

" LS4 will offer the Twig-Templateengine for E-Mails." Not sure, maybe already done? Again, link to mantis would be good.

" LS4 will have a normalized datastructure (no more table limit issues)" No.

" LS4 will offer real objects (ORM access style) instead of the aSurveyInfo." No, but good idea. Link to feature request?

" LS4 will provide retro-compatibility with LS3 themes." Yes.

" LS4 will have a RBAC permission system." No.

What we do know about LS4:

LS4 will include the first pilot version of LimeStore, being able to buy plugin zip files from limesurvey.org and install them in LimeSurvey.

LS4 will include academic features. Ping Louis or Fredrik Funke for further details.

Our goal is to release a stable version mid-December, but as usual delays can happen.

LS4 might include a new component system, as an alternative to plugins.
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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174827 von LouisGac
LouisGac antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
" LS4 will have a new HTML-Editor." : yes, we will update to CK5

"LS4 will offer the Twig-Templateengine for E-Mails" : yes. If we have time in 4.0, else in 4.x, knowing that we'll keep the current keywords also (they will be removed in LS 5)

" LS4 will have a normalized datastructure (no more table limit issues)": for languages, yes. For survey itself, no.

" LS4 will offer real objects (ORM access style) instead of the aSurveyInfo.": for the sake of survey theme retrocompatibility, aSurveyInfo will be here, but yes, we'll add the access to the main data model objects

" LS4 will have a RBAC permission system." : still not. Unless we realize it can be done in a very short amount of time.

LS4 WILL include a new component system ( add Menu + full page feature in the backend): that's one the main goal of it for now.

For the shop: see with olle ;)

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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174831 von ollehar
ollehar antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
Thank you for the corrections, Louis.
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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174834 von jelo
jelo antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
Well, the collected statements are from forum posts by LimeSurvey devs over time.
I count many "No".
I won't "ping" people about features.
I opened that thread to collect infos about LS4 and I left the first post free to let you add the valid infos there.

Currently I wonder why LS4 is not called LS3.X? The store seems to be the biggest change.

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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174835 von LouisGac
LouisGac antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)

jelo schrieb:
Currently I wonder why LS4 is not called LS3.X?



Change in the DB structure for language + upload question theme (in ls3 it was only core, and for advanced users) + component system + shop

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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174836 von ollehar
ollehar antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
For more information about versioning, see the semantic version schema: semver.org/

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1 Monat 2 Wochen her - 1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174844 von ollehar
ollehar antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)

jelo schrieb: I count many "No".


More features equals later release date. It's simply just a trade-off.
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1 Monat 2 Wochen her #174866 von DenisChenu
DenisChenu antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
I need to work on a new library/Class for replacing all send mail system too …
Hope have time before november :)

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I'm not a LimeSurvey GmbH member, professional service on demand (or search sondages pro).
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2 Wochen 2 Tage her #176158 von jelo
jelo antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)
ExpressionScript (which is the former ExpressionManager) will not change in LS4?

I wonder how many bugs and hours of debugging are caused by the JS vs. PHP validation stuff.
How are other web-applications solving this? The amount of time digging through the code and debugging bugs like this www.limesurvey.org/forum/can-i-do-this-w...3-15-1-181017#176119 cannot be prevented by a groundbreaking change?

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2 Wochen 2 Tage her #176167 von DenisChenu
DenisChenu antwortete auf das Thema: LimeSurvey 4 (WIP)

jelo schrieb: …
The amount of time digging through the code and debugging bugs like this www.limesurvey.org/forum/can-i-do-this-w...3-15-1-181017#176119 cannot be prevented by a groundbreaking change?

Personnal opinion here : it working like attended before, updated with «fixing» an unknow situation.

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