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Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
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5 years 6 months ago #174076
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Replied by holch on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
I am very interested in this as well. I was quite firm in CSS and HTML 10 years ago, but I have not done much since then. Thus I am rusty and bootstrap etc. are currently way over my head and I would have to put a lot of effort to get into this.
The current templates have a lot of code and are pretty complicated (for me). The templates are great in terms of features, but difficult to "understand" if you are not a pro in webdevelopment but would like to create a custom theme. But I have to admit, the first looks at the templates have scared me away. I need to get myself into this and find some time to get deeper into the new theme structure.
A theme with less code would be great to understand the structure better. Of course, I could just delete the CSS and start from scratch, but I am not sure if this is a good idea.
The current templates have a lot of code and are pretty complicated (for me). The templates are great in terms of features, but difficult to "understand" if you are not a pro in webdevelopment but would like to create a custom theme. But I have to admit, the first looks at the templates have scared me away. I need to get myself into this and find some time to get deeper into the new theme structure.
A theme with less code would be great to understand the structure better. Of course, I could just delete the CSS and start from scratch, but I am not sure if this is a good idea.
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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #174433
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Replied by tammo on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
I am quite sure that it is not a good idea to delete all css and start over again.
Any theme will have more or less the same amount of lines of code. The biggest difference (and advantage as far as I am concerned) between the current "vanilla" and the "raw" or "clean" theme that I am proposing is that in the "raw" theme no superfluous classes have been scattered among all line of code; just semantic classes.
Then a developer (yes, you will need to learn somewhat more about Bootstrap or another framework) can use that "raw" theme as a solid basis for a very user friendly new theme. The "raw" theme will itself be probably very ugly, but it will never be used as a survey theme, only as a clean sheet for the developer. Like an empty piece of paper, but with some grid (Bootstrap grid is what I would prefer now).
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Any theme will have more or less the same amount of lines of code. The biggest difference (and advantage as far as I am concerned) between the current "vanilla" and the "raw" or "clean" theme that I am proposing is that in the "raw" theme no superfluous classes have been scattered among all line of code; just semantic classes.
Then a developer (yes, you will need to learn somewhat more about Bootstrap or another framework) can use that "raw" theme as a solid basis for a very user friendly new theme. The "raw" theme will itself be probably very ugly, but it will never be used as a survey theme, only as a clean sheet for the developer. Like an empty piece of paper, but with some grid (Bootstrap grid is what I would prefer now).
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5 years 6 months ago - 5 years 6 months ago #174434
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Replied by tammo on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
And hopefully (wink, wink) the upcoming version LimeSurvey 4 will have the possibility to change CSS-frameworks, so Bootstrap4 or any other framework may be used.
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5 years 1 month ago #180140
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The meaning of the word "stable" for users
www.limesurvey.org/forum/development/117...ord-stable-for-users
Replied by jelo on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
Four months have passed. Is there any external developer offering LS3 themes?
Denis is developing "skelvanilla"
gitlab.com/SondagesPro/SurveyThemes/skelvanilla
Denis is developing "skelvanilla"
gitlab.com/SondagesPro/SurveyThemes/skelvanilla
The meaning of the word "stable" for users
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5 years 1 month ago #180145
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Replied by DenisChenu on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
Mazi already have some theme
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5 years 1 month ago #180149
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I am working on a 3.x implementation of TFR Responsive.
Is there any documentation on how theming will be in 4.x? Will it be different?
survey.toolsforresearch.com/index.php/963356?lang=en
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Is there any documentation on how theming will be in 4.x? Will it be different?
survey.toolsforresearch.com/index.php/963356?lang=en
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Replied by DenisChenu on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
Some difference , but not totally broke theme if i remind.tammo wrote: Is there any documentation on how theming will be in 4.x? Will it be different?
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5 years 1 month ago #180154
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BTW: I tought you use webforms more often. The integration of small surveys as parts of a website are becoming more common. The big survey approach of LimeSurvey is getting less and less acceptance rates.
TFR Responsive looks nice. Pleasure for the eyeballs
The meaning of the word "stable" for users
www.limesurvey.org/forum/development/117...ord-stable-for-users
Replied by jelo on topic Thoughts on custom theming using vanilla theme.
Most people try to get the relevant infos for LS3 theme. LS4 alpha package might be available for testing soon. I only remember the intention to replace the messy arrays of variables. But I haven't found a change in the develop branch.tammo wrote: Is there any documentation on how theming will be in 4.x? Will it be different?
BTW: I tought you use webforms more often. The integration of small surveys as parts of a website are becoming more common. The big survey approach of LimeSurvey is getting less and less acceptance rates.
TFR Responsive looks nice. Pleasure for the eyeballs
The meaning of the word "stable" for users
www.limesurvey.org/forum/development/117...ord-stable-for-users
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