How to reorder question between groups

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93388 by Dmitry_f
Hi all,
I have very simple problem, but can't find solution(((.
I have several groups of questions and I need to reorder questions in a way that they don't follow in groups.
For example, I have two qroups G1 and G2 and two questions in each group Q1 and Q2, how can I define order as G1_Q1 -> G2_Q2 -> G1_Q2 -> G2_Q1? (first question goes from Group 1, second from Group 2, then again from Group 1 and last from Group 2)
Please help!!!

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93392 by holch
I think you will have to change your groups to the order you wish.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93396 by Dmitry_f

holch wrote: I think you will have to change your groups to the order you wish.

I need to keep groups as defined for assessment calculation.
This looks bit strange, very basic stuff doesn't exist... How to use tool, if I can't just to change order?

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4 years 2 weeks ago - 4 years 2 weeks ago #93399 by holch
I don't think that this is "very basic stuff", but rather quite advanced stuff that 99,9% of all users will never need. And of course no one is forced to use Limesurvey. There are a bunch of commercial tools out there.

However, I would have a look at the Expression Manager which exists in Limesurvey for a few releases now. It is quite mighty from what I have seen so far, but I only have very little knowledge about it so far. It allows a lot of customization.

If you can't reorder the groups, from what I know you can make more advanced calculations for the assessment at least. Maybe someone who knows more about EM in Limesurvey can help out here?

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Last Edit: 4 years 2 weeks ago by holch.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93410 by Dmitry_f

holch wrote: I don't think that this is "very basic stuff", but rather quite advanced stuff that 99,9% of all users will never need.

Definitely never need, if answer sounds like this:

holch wrote: And of course no one is forced to use Limesurvey. There are a bunch of commercial tools out there.

Otherwise it's pretty common, to be able to sort questions not only group by group, but also mix its between groups. Also it's not rear when assessments groups doesn't match to questions groups and it's not very hard just to add separate groups for assessments.
But I don't want to force and of course, there are many other tools etc., more easy just to ignore.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93420 by DenisChenu
You can use Expression Manager and not assesment.

Don't see the problem.

A group is a group of question present in this grup (expcet with "random order").

Denis

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93422 by Dmitry_f

DenisChenu wrote: You can use Expression Manager and not assesment.

Don't see the problem.

My hope was to get real help...

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93425 by DenisChenu
If you explain exactly what ypou want maybe we can help more.

But with explession manager you can use equation question type to do your own "assesment".

Denis
- docs.limesurvey.org/Expression+Manager#A..._and_Micro-Tailoring

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93432 by Dmitry_f

DenisChenu wrote: If you explain exactly what ypou want maybe we can help more.

Simple example, I have 4 questions Q1, Q2, Q3, Q4 (important that in survey questions goes in same order).
I need to have 2 assessment result A1 and A2
A1 depends on combination of answers to Q1 and Q3
A2 depends on combination of answers to Q2 and Q4

Real surveys of course much bigger, but if I get hove to make this on simple example, I can make myself all rest. I tried to do that using questions group and group assessment, it works but but questions in this case follows in groups, but for survey is important that questions shouldn't show that group to user, i.e should be mixed.

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93436 by DenisChenu
Hello,

If you just want t use assesment at end page, you can do:
{if(Q1.value+Q3.value>2,"Your score for Q1 and Q3 is greater than 2","Your score for Q1 and Q3 is lesser than 3"} <br />
 
{if(Q2.value+Q4.value>2,"Your score for Q2 and Q4 is greater than 2","Your score for Q2 and Q4 is lesser than 3"} <br />

To use the score after in the survey (even filter some question for example).

Add 2 equation question type, use attribute "hidden" (allways hide this question)
A1 is the code, and the text is {Q1.value+Q3.value}
A2 is the code, and the text is {Q2.value+Q4.value}

After you can do:
{if(A1>2,"Your score for Q1 and Q3 is greater than 2","Your score for Q1 and Q3 is lesser than 3"} <br />
 
{if(A2>2,"Your score for Q2 and Q4 is greater than 2","Your score for Q2 and Q4 is lesser than 3"} <br />

Denis

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4 years 2 weeks ago #93440 by Dmitry_f
Thanks a lot, it looks like what I am looking for!

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