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Looping 2 years 4 days ago #99493

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Looping question, questions groups.

A loop can contain one to many questions/questions groups and is connected with a list of items with will be changed with every iteration of the loop.

The list could be predefined in the first place or an dynamic list can be build during the interview.

Typical example is when asking for brands.

What brands you can think off (open text items)?
What brands you know (predefined list)?
What brand you would buy (subset of selected list above).

Dynamic list = Randomly choosen up to four items from the last selected items.

Now up to four items are applied to a loop of questions.

Today you would need to precreate every loop by hand and hope that the list to choose from is not changed during programming ;-) Copy and paste errors all the way.
A five minute job with looping can turn into a 24h task without looping.

To allow skipping of certain loops would be another feature used in connection with conditions.

I don't expect that such a feature can be added via the plugin api of 2.1.

If you are currently reading this post and interested in this feature, reply to this thread. Vote with your post.
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Looping 2 years 3 days ago #99498

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I agree with you...
Trivender Singh
Survey Designer and Programmer
"I always suggest to have a group by group display layout and create a seprate group for each question. This will be extra work but you will get flexiblity to create your question by using more than more lime survey question types."
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Looping 8 months 4 weeks ago #115267

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Looks like now many others are looking for this feature.

The gap between other commercials solutions seem to be to big. The users which need theses features are already on the big survey solutions. The others are just happy with the solid performance and have no time issue to implement workarounds.
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Looping 2 weeks 11 hours ago #123909

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This is quiet an old post, but I am facing the same issue today. For example, we are doing an ongoing study every two weeks and ask people the same four questions for 25 items that change every week. Currently I would need to create 25*4 questions and edit them every two weeks. That is in no way doable. Therefore, we still use a very outdated and old commercial version of another survey software. I would really, really like to get all our studies moved to LimeSurvey and therefore still hope for a future release including looping of questions.
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Looping 2 weeks 10 hours ago #123910

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Let's open a feature request and put some money behind.
I offer 250 USD as a start. When specs are compatible, I would raise the amount.
How much will you offer, since you are using a commercial software. BTW, which one?
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Looping 2 weeks 10 hours ago #123913

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@jpalmbeck:
"That is in no way doable."

Of course it is doable, it is just really annoying. ;-)

@jelo: There is another user (DOwen) who was asking about looping today. You might want to recruit him... :-)
Have a look at the manual! It is a really valuable source for information. Here some helpful links:
Manual (EN) | Question Types | Question Attributes | Workarounds

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Looping 2 weeks 9 hours ago #123916

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holch wrote:
@jelo: There is another user (DOwen) who was asking about looping today. You might want to recruit him... :-)
BTW: I never use looping in surveys, cause I hate looping. When I see these surveys, where you have to tick the brands from a list, and then all brands are looped through the same battery of questions, you know what hell is.

Why I am asking for that feature? I want to see, how theses things evolve. Time to market pressure vs. workaround land.

I don't recruit for features. If they find this post and reply, they have passed the test. If not, get along.
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Looping 2 weeks 9 hours ago #123917

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@jelo I could certainly back up the request with another 250 USD. Right now we are using a very, very old version of keyingress we bought > 10 years ago. Well it works, why spend money for something new. The survey is only used internally, so it doesn't matter how it looks and old fashioned it is. I always recommend LimeSurvey to my students, because of its flexibility and would never spend money for another piece of closed source crap (putting aside that it takes month to acquire external funds).

@holch well, let me put it that way: how in the hell do I tell my colleagues that we should use another software that takes an hour to modify every other week instead of seconds?

btw. survey software doesn't only exist in market research so there is more than just "brands" and "marketing".
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Looping 2 weeks 9 hours ago #123918

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Hey jplambeck, that is why I put a smiley at the end. I just found the "it is not doable" a little too definite. :-)

Just because it is not about brands and marketing I don't think the loops get any more interesting. :-)

And I agree, it is a feature that is very interesting and can reduce the workload quite a bit. Sometimes there is just no way around it. Sometimes you just need the loop, because you won't get your information without it.

But I agree with Jelo to a certain extend. There are people out there that create questionnaires "from hell". They will collect data with it. The question is, if this data has any value. But this is not a problem of looping or not. This is a general problem of survey design and I guess here is not the place to discuss that.
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Manual (EN) | Question Types | Question Attributes | Workarounds

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Last Edit: 2 weeks 8 hours ago by holch.
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Looping 2 weeks 8 hours ago #123919

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@holch yeah, you are right - "not doable" was a bit too much. LimeSurvey is in this case probably just the wrong tool for it, in order to do it in a timely fashion. But I still think it would be a useful addition to LimeSurvey, if in any way possible to add it.

Actually in psychological tests you find a lot of looping through batteries of questions especially in pre-mid-post test environments. Having to change the same thing multiple times always asks for human errors. That's why I actually like loops in these cases.

And yes, I agree completely that there a tons of people and companies out there creating awful surveys. That is part of the reason why online market research is dead in my opinion: The people are just sick of surveys like these and do not even look at the good ones anymore.
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