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4 years 20 hours ago #195924 by ymca
Hi,

An option that lets the survey creator choose if to collect full IP or part of it to the survey

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3 years 11 months ago #196001 by DenisChenu
manual.limesurvey.org/Notifications_%26_data#Save_IP_address

Else : if need part : not a core task, must be a plugin.

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3 years 11 months ago #196551 by cdorin
4.2 will have a new feature that will allow you to anonymize the collected IPs (it will be released on the 20th of April)

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3 years 11 months ago #196567 by jelo

ymca wrote: Hi, An option that lets the survey creator choose if to collect full IP or part of it to the survey

What is the usercase for saving partial IP addresses in a survey? Any kind of tracking?

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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #196577 by ymca

cdorin wrote: 4.2 will have a new feature that will allow you to anonymize the collected IPs (it will be released on the 20th of April)

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What is the usercase for saving partial IP addresses in a survey? Any kind of tracking?

It's like eating the cake and keeping it whole.
When wanting to keep the users anonymity but still know where they come from for statistics or see if they made false vote about their place of residence for example...

p.s.
I'm curious how this feature will be, if with flags that will show IP's country or not.

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3 years 11 months ago #196583 by jelo

ymca wrote: I'm curious how this feature will be, if with flags that will show IP's country or not.

That would be another feature request. Currently you will just seen parts of a IPv4 or IPv6 address replaced with eg. 0.

Adding a country information to the responses would be a complete different feature request.
A IP GEO database would be needed. Bundled or via API.

BTW: If the respondents are known via invitations the obfuscated IP might be enough to identify them.

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3 years 11 months ago #196603 by ymca

jelo: That would be another feature request. Currently you will just seen parts of a IPv4 or IPv6 address replaced with eg. 0.

Adding a country information to the responses would be a complete different feature request.
A IP GEO database would be needed. Bundled or via API.

I don't know what to write in the feature request because I don't know how it looks like.
Do you know how the system will show the IP's?
Is it per answer/poll or admin doesn't see it?

BTW: If the respondents are known via invitations the obfuscated IP might be enough to identify them.

What is the difference between invitation with or without obfuscated IP?
It means that when using invitation + obfuscated IP, the survey cannot be anonymous?

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3 years 11 months ago #196604 by Joffm
And you cannot rely on it.
You only know where the survey was answered.
What if somebody answers your survey during his holiday in South Africa, but his "place of residence" is Finland?

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3 years 11 months ago #196608 by jelo

ymca wrote: Do you know how the system will show the IP's?
Is it per answer/poll or admin doesn't see it?

We will know, when LS 4.2 is released. My educated guess is that you just see the IP in the responses set like today. Only the last parts are obfuscated. Anything beyond that would be not scope of the current feature description.

ymca wrote: What is the difference between invitation with or without obfuscated IP?

If you have in your invitation list only one person from a country/company, even the obfuscated IP can allow to match response to that person. It is better that the full IP, but there will be cases where you still can match people.

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3 years 11 months ago #196819 by ymca

Joffm wrote: And you cannot rely on it.
You only know where the survey was answered.
What if somebody answers your survey during his holiday in South Africa, but his "place of residence" is Finland?

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Right.
It also depends on the question.

jelo wrote: If you have in your invitation list only one person from a country/company, even the obfuscated IP can allow to match response to that person. It is better that the full IP, but there will be cases where you still can match people.

Where the problem lies?
I mean, who can match people, the admin, other respondents or hackers?
And if just respondents than, add option to only show IP after "x" votes.

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