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7 years 2 months ago #147310
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A student set her survey to use token management and has successfully distributed it to her subjects.
She now finds some additional subjects but they cannot use email to receive the message, nor use their browser to fill it in.
She is can administer these surveys by hand (interview-style), but when she tries to enter the data, Limesurvey asks for a token value (of course), which does not exist for these subjects.
If she copies the survey to a new survey and turns token management off, she can then fill in the manually-gathered data.
But can she then concatenate the two surveys to make one set of results (maybe by dropping the token field from the first one)?
She now finds some additional subjects but they cannot use email to receive the message, nor use their browser to fill it in.
She is can administer these surveys by hand (interview-style), but when she tries to enter the data, Limesurvey asks for a token value (of course), which does not exist for these subjects.
If she copies the survey to a new survey and turns token management off, she can then fill in the manually-gathered data.
But can she then concatenate the two surveys to make one set of results (maybe by dropping the token field from the first one)?
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7 years 2 months ago #147321
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Replied by DenisChenu on topic Concatenating survey results
Use vv export / vv import : it's done for this.
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7 years 2 months ago #147335
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Easiest way: Use the data entry portion of Limesurvey.
Second easiest way: add dummy tokens for these respondents.
Third easiest option: export the two results as CSV open them in Excel and copy them together.
Of course you could export and import from one to the other installation, but I think you don't care if the results are all in the same installation anyway, you just need one data set with all responses.
Second easiest way: add dummy tokens for these respondents.
Third easiest option: export the two results as CSV open them in Excel and copy them together.
Of course you could export and import from one to the other installation, but I think you don't care if the results are all in the same installation anyway, you just need one data set with all responses.
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7 years 2 months ago #147338
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Replied by DenisChenu on topic Concatenating survey results
@holch :
- Go to survey without token, export VV
- Go to survey with token import VV with good checkbox (create a new entry)
It's done ...
This can not be more simple .....
- Go to survey without token, export VV
- Go to survey with token import VV with good checkbox (create a new entry)
It's done ...
This can not be more simple .....
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7 years 2 months ago #147339
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Yes, she's already going to use the data-entry facilities, on a copy that has tokens turned off.
I couldn't find anywhere in the manual to generate dummy tokens that didn't require an email address and a lot of other metadata per subject first.
She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system, so she wants to catenate the data in Limesurvey.
I couldn't find anywhere in the manual to generate dummy tokens that didn't require an email address and a lot of other metadata per subject first.
She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system, so she wants to catenate the data in Limesurvey.
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7 years 2 months ago #147340
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I could not find an export format called VV, only .lss, .lsa, .xml, and .txt.
I am using Version 2.06+ Build 151215
I am using Version 2.06+ Build 151215
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7 years 2 months ago #147342
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Hmm, you need to create a second survey first. Not a huge deal, but I think creating a number of additional tokens is probably easier. But hey, what do I know...This can not be more simple .....
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7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #147343
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You can easily create dummy emails.
But to be honest, the statistics in Limesurvey are not really made for analysis. They are very good for giving you a first idea of the results, but I would always analyse outside of LS. But of course I don't really know the project, your/her requirements, etc.
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She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system, so she wants to catenate the data in Limesurvey.
You can easily create dummy emails.
But to be honest, the statistics in Limesurvey are not really made for analysis. They are very good for giving you a first idea of the results, but I would always analyse outside of LS. But of course I don't really know the project, your/her requirements, etc.
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Last edit: 7 years 2 months ago by holch. Reason: Deleted a comment that was not correct
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7 years 2 months ago - 7 years 2 months ago #147345
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Replied by Joffm on topic Concatenating survey results
Hi, frisket, (I see, holch was a second faster)
But you want to export the answers.
That's in "Responses and Statistics".
And here you find two icons to import or export VV.
BTW
I agree to holch: To add some dummy tokens would have been the easiest way.
And following your approach with two surveys: IMHO anybody should be able to export the two data files to EXCEL and merge them.
You have no cross tabs, no basic statistical tests like t-Text or CHI-Square.
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You looked into the export of the survey structure.I could not find an export format called VV, only .lss, .lsa, .xml, and .txt.
But you want to export the answers.
That's in "Responses and Statistics".
And here you find two icons to import or export VV.
BTW
I agree to holch: To add some dummy tokens would have been the easiest way.
And following your approach with two surveys: IMHO anybody should be able to export the two data files to EXCEL and merge them.
Really? Here is nothing. Just frequencies and some statistical key figures like mean, quartiles, median in numerical questions.She wants to use Limesurvey's own stats, not SPSS or other external system
You have no cross tabs, no basic statistical tests like t-Text or CHI-Square.
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7 years 2 months ago #147383
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Replied by DenisChenu on topic Concatenating survey results
@Joffm and @holch : i didn't understand why you don't like VV ? It's really the speediest way , you don't need to create a new survey ? What for ?
Export complete responses from the first survey and delete it, import in the 2nd survey : all responses are here. One and 2 day after : do same job etc ....
Denis
Export complete responses from the first survey and delete it, import in the 2nd survey : all responses are here. One and 2 day after : do same job etc ....
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7 years 2 months ago #147384
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Replied by frisket on topic Concatenating survey results
OK, gottit, thanks. That piece of the interface could do with some reworking. BTW what does VV stand for?
Generating dummy tokens was my first approach, but that would require dummy addresses, names, etc (these additional responses are going to be anonymous, for unrelated small-p-political reasons).
This is a set of undergraduate surveys, half a dozen questions. No requirement for anything beyond head counts, means and standard deviations.
Generating dummy tokens was my first approach, but that would require dummy addresses, names, etc (these additional responses are going to be anonymous, for unrelated small-p-political reasons).
This is a set of undergraduate surveys, half a dozen questions. No requirement for anything beyond head counts, means and standard deviations.
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7 years 2 months ago #147386
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Incidentally, is there a reason to append the data from the first survey to the second, instead of appending the data from the second survey to the first?
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